Sunday, September 18, 2005

Lunch with Andre



by David Holzel

Soup, cabbage and surrealism with poet Andrei Codrescu.

A Joke:
The people are waiting in a long line to enter the food store. A commissar arrives. "The Jews must leave the line," he orders.

After an hour, the wait is still interminable, so the commissar announces: "Non-party members must leave the line."

An hour later the commissar returns. "There's nothing in the store. Everybody go home!"

The people leave, grumbling, "The Jews always have it good."

You can't take Eastern Europe out of Andrei Codrescu. Even after three decades in America, the Romanian-born poet, novelist and guardian of the jokes that made life bearable in the communist world still sees through the eyes of a Jew raised in that fallen utopia.
"Stories are what define us, what keeps us knowing who we are," says Codrescu, 51, known for his sardonic commentaries on National Public Radio's "All Things Considered." "Being human is something that contradicts itself an awful lot. And I think stories put that in perspective for us."

It's approaching noon on an autumn Sunday in Atlanta, and we are heading to a Chinese restaurant in search of the thing Codrescu's soul is crying out for: a bowl of soup and a plate of cabbage.

With his Tatar eyes and walrus mustache, Codrescu seems an exotic species of Jew -- intellectual, ironic, a man who believes a Jew, first and foremost, is a state of being. In person, he's a cheerfully unreconstructed bohemian. Once in the restaurant, he heads straight to the smoking section.

He's happy that his celebrity has led to extra income on the speaker circuit. But he believes the fame of a surrealist Romanian radio commentary may be fleeting. For now he'll stick with teaching English at Louisiana State University. Just don't call him "doctor."

"I have no formal college education whatsoever," he says. "I finished high school in Romania, though barely. I have the graduation picture in which I'm the only one without a tie. That's one of the funny things about the entire communist system, is that while they were revolutionary in their rhetoric, they're exceedingly formal in their dress."

He commands the English language better than most native speakers. At first his accent seems to be an impediment, slowing him down like thick syrup. But he speaks with ease. He seems to taste his words as he speaks them. Perhaps the soup and cabbage are artifice, and the words and ideas are Andre Codrescu's primary nourishment.

His recent compilation of commentaries, "The Dog With The Chip In His Neck" (St. Martin's Press), covers Codrescu's favorite territory: language, art, identity, East and West, the omnipresence of technology. In one piece, the writer wryly contends that "every time someone adds memory to their computer, thousands of people forget everything they know." The book's title piece refers to a Bouvier named Zena, who was injected with computer information that can be scanned to "retrieve all his vital data, like, 'This is Zena, Sherri's dog...' "

A few years back, Codrescu toured the country in the documentary "Road Scholar." For his next film, Codrescu is exploring cyberspace.

"It's a reality that most Americans are trying very hard to keep up with. And it seems at times to be a separate reality," he says. "Because in cyberspace, identity is under question. You don't know who's out there talking to you -- a man, a woman. Gender is questionable. Age is questionable. Most of the things we take for granted are relative in cyberspace.

"And so the purpose of this movie is to try to get a sense of what this new utopia is. For instance, you can go to mass in cyberspace now. You can go to a funeral in cyberspace -- you can join a funeral, an actual, live funeral in progress. So there is quite a new notion of what community means. And what people are is under question in cyberspace. That's right up my alley, because questions of identity, metaphor and reality fit right into what I think about."

The price of a Jew in Romania
"The first poem that I wrote was with the help of my mother. I was sitting at the kitchen table and I had a school assignment to write an ode to the Socialist Republic of Romania. I remember getting all the ideas for the lines and my mother finding the rhymes."

Andrei Codrescu was born in Sibiu, a small town with a medieval old quarter, in Romania's Transylvania region. Growing up in post-Holocaust Eastern Europe meant being only dimly aware of one's Jewish identity. Andrei was more conscious of his country's dictatorship and his own love of words.

"I came from a world where you could go to prison for writing a poem," he told an Atlanta audience. "Censors were some of our best readers."

At 19, he emigrated with his mother. The State of Israel paid $2,000 a head to the Romanian dictator for them. The immigration agency HIAS -- "which I think is the best Jewish organization of them all" -- settled them in Detroit.

That was 1966, and American youth was about to take to the streets. They found Andrei Codrescu ready to join the protests and the party.

"When I came to this country, the Vietnam war was in full bloom and I could have been drafted into the army," he says as his egg-drop soup is placed before him. "Citizenship takes a long time, but they can draft you when you get here."

So he enrolled in college to get a deferral from the army. "I didn't really let school get in the way of my education after that," he says, lowering his spoon to the bowl, "because it was a tremendously exciting time and my generation was on the move. There was a great deal of serious discontent in this country and the streets were a university every time you got out on them -- Oh this is great!"

The next 30 years was a journey, with stops in New York, San Francisco, Paris, Baltimore, Baton Rouge and, finally, New Orleans.

"I said somewhere that poetry is the art of being kidnapped by circumstances. I never had any plan," he says. "And I certainly liked it that way, because being a poet means discovering as you go along."

The watershed was 1983. That year, living in Baltimore, he founded a literary journal called Exquisite Corpse. And an NPR producer asked Codrescu to read for radio some commentaries he had written for the Baltimore Sun.

And so he entered the cadre of public radio superstars, the unlikely pantheon that includes Hudson Valley dog lover and children's book writer Daniel Pinkwater, Georgia primary school teacher and screened-porch philosopher Bailey White, and former cowboy and large animal veterinarian Baxter Black.
"Poetry is the art of being kidnapped by circumstances. I never had any plan."

New Orleans Stories: Great Writers On The City
Andre Codrescu
Book from Chronicle Books
Release date: July, 2004

A woman says:
"We'll all be underwater in 100 years..."
Her eyes drinking in.
The watery devastation.
Of a New Orleans grave.

Amnesiac souls.

Asahi and Ok Computer.
Keep me company.
Soothe my mind.
As the hurricane subsides.
From the disaster zone.
And dead that litter it.

Descending again.

Just fading, really.
Right now.
Into the devastation.
The river of tears.
The hum of a looters heartbeat.
And those bittersweet sounds.
Of icebergs melting...

Another boring Sunday; 2:45
I thought that I might do a cut and paste of Andre since I often listen to him on my only radio station of continual significance in my life. Time continues to accelerate as the wrinkles underneath the eyes multiply. I wake up wondering whether to go back to sleep, still waking up with the realization of our inevitability.
So you strive to do work as a panacea for this emptiness in your life that permeates you even more in the loneliness of the desert. Is your biggest fear missing out on some excitement going on in the rest of the world?....but then the sadness of what is happening to this country makes you even more depressed fight off the paralyzing fatigue as you drink down your 2nd 20 0z cup of instant coffee and cocoa, the garvaldian blend that others might call a mocha??
to be continued but I need to think of a creative gift for my favorite special ed director's baby shower!!

10:30 Monday:
The usual prograstination before I finally disnii'sh (I am beginning to work)...
is the biggest vulnerability of someone with my level of ADD!

I have so many things to do, but I would rather talk to you for a few minutes, especially after the current love of my life tells me how beautiful I am. M wants to hold my shaved head in between her awaiting mammary glands. She wants me to stop by KC on the way back to my
"I'll just hop a lear jet back to my desert airstrip at the foot of my backyard in front of my Mt. Serendipachi."
(I kissed her and she bit, but she made me feel so good after I climbed her.)

M gave me good news from Lillian, my favorite webmistress, can help me publish my book through the net with a special colored cover and in spiral for only $7.00 and only 3 cents a page after that! Wow to be a published novelist! We will have to find the meatiest and most humorous essay cutting down white anglo saxon rednecks and wannabee Stepford neighbors....that in itself sounds pretty meaty! (she rolls her eyes ;)


  1. debt chaser: whats funnier: people like Bob is the problem with America! Bob wants us to save money and get out of debt. How unamerican to not to want to buy as many panties for all the lobbyists and control the media about panties. We are the white rich religious panty hoarders!
    debt chaser: Im in debt chasing panties. Is this the republican way now?? Buy as many panties , start a war over panties, find out there are no panties of mass destruction. but we are more in heavily in debt than ever in our lives! but we are happy! We will earn money. We will sell our books on how to get the country into the bankruptcy of a banana republic but we are happy christians. TDF!
    debt chaser: Im in debt chasing panties. Is this the republican way now . Buy as many panties , start a war over panties, find out there are no panties of mass destruction. but we are more in heavily in debt than ever in our lives! but we are happy!
    debt chaser: I just love to be in debt! TDF!
    whats funnier: people like Bob is the problem with America!
    whats funnier: bob: right....sinking more money into the rich...via tax the answer....screw those poor people ---- see folks Bob is a socialist...He thinks a tax cut is the government sinking more money into the rich...he thinks the money belings to the government and not the person who earned it! SOCIALST ASS HAT BAST@RD!
    whats funnier: bob got beat down like a red headed step child!
    whats funnier: Ilegal imigration is also Bushs fault! Everyone knows that prior to bush stealing the 2000 mexican wanted to cross our border to work and send money home! TDF!
    bob: you also don't listen...which is a sign of an ignorant perosn......and not worth my time......cya
    whats funnier: NOW I AM THE PROBLEM! TDF!
    whats funnier: Bob whats it like being a socialist in a country that is based on capitalism?
    bob: by hiding behind bush's failures...and to keep defending are the problem.....
    whats funnier: bob wants the UN to make decisions for America!
    bob: nothing is george Bush's fault...and you ...are not a good american...b/c a good american...questions what's wrong...and isn't afraid to say not a good american
    whats funnier: bob wants a world government!
    whats funnier: bob want to see america weakened!
    whats funnier: bob is a socialist
    bob: other than make the corporate world weakening laws that hurt people...and make the rich richer....that's good right /
    whats funnier: george bush invented the industrian revolution so that he could kill this planet thus getting his uber rich buddies richer! Everyone knows that!
    whats funnier: I would definately say global warming is Bushs has nothing to do with the fact this planet has heated up and froze over a few times!
    bob: 2000
    bob: the 200 dead///a surplus turned to a deficit...our environment corriding...gloabal warming not being dealt Bush....what does he do ?
    whats funnier: 9-11 is bushs fault. He also stole two elections!
    bob: nothing is Bush's fault...right?
    bob: If you ever read a competent would know...that this country is headin for big trouble...
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  2. It's nice to see my very enjoyable lunch with Andrei Codrescu is taking on a life of its own. May I direct any interested readers to my zine where the original resides? The Jewish Angle:

  3. Thanks for the comment, David. I am honored! :)


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