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Entertainment Weekly Upgrades Al Gore's 'Cool' Status
Posted by Greg Sheffield on July 17, 2006 - 11:18.
Slapstick Politics has an excerpt from a recent Entertainment Weekly article on Al Gore's film, "An Inconvenient Truth." It turns out documentary films about global warming have a way of making people cool. This should be encouraging news for science club high schoolers around the country.
Minds are being changed, all right, and not just about global warming. Miraculously, over the past few months, An Inconvenient Truth has accomplished something many people
once thought inconceivable: It's made Al Gore cool.
The somber policy wonk who campaigned for president in 2000 with all those bland speeches about lockboxes is gone. He's now a hip and trendy (in a wonky sort of way) ecological activist. While promoting the movie this summer, Gore has been connecting with crowds more effortlessly and comfortably — even charismatically — than he ever did as a politician. He even found his sense of humor; turns out it's been hiding all this time inside daughter Kristin, a former comedy writer on Matt Groening's Futurama and the one responsible for Gore's gag on The Tonight Show last month about having a showbiz feud with Lindsay Lohan (''She knows what she did...''), along with most of his other recent zingers. (See the animated trailer her pals at Futurama whipped up for the film.) True, Gore's new gig doesn't come with perks like rides on Air Force One or a house with an oval-shaped home office, but in some ways it gives him even more clout than being Commander-in-Chief. After all, if you truly want to make a difference these days, if you really want to be taken seriously by the public and participate in the national dialogue, you don't run for president. The job title for you is Movie Star.

rhayes Says:July 17, 2006 - 21:19
This site is hilarious. Now it wants to poke fun at Gore not being cool....amazing...it's like a breath of fresh air seeing this country from another continent even when Fox forces its way on the Aussie media...
so we all laugh at Fox news and their worries about us learning the real truth about the environment...I turn it on and seem them have the same whine as other faux conservatives that are afraid of the truth or only want us to see what large corporations and the major oil companies want us to see.
and by the way, I have yet to meet an Australian who won't say that Howard is a puppet of Bush!
"Moderat ion is the key to and long and healthy life!" anonymous moderate centenarian born during the Teddy Roosevelt ( the great national park conservative )administration
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Jack Bauer Says:July 18, 2006 - 05:39
Moderate this..."I've taken more out of alcohol than it has taken out of me."Sir Winston Churchill, Greatest Man of the 20th Century. Oh, and by the way... Bak wanka. Derk-derk-Allah. Derka drongo wombat. Derka chunda, Mohammed Jihad. Baka sherpa-sherpa. Abaka-la. Zidane-zidane. VIVA the CIA -- if only because they put 100 bullets into Che Guevera.
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SportPolitics Says:July 18, 2006 - 01:13
[This site is hilarious...poke fun at Gore not being cool....amazing...it's like a breath of fresh air seeing this country from another continent even when Fox forces its way on the Aussie media...]
Is that classic leftist Fox News paranioa ? Hint- It's hilarious to me.
[so we all laugh at Fox news and their worries about us learning the real truth about the environment...]
Gosh, Fox news can't stop anyone form learning "the real truth" about the environment. To think that they can is pretty silly, or to think that they think they can is as silly or sillier.
[... that are afraid of the truth or only want us to see what large corporations and the major oil companies want us to see.]
That's another pure libby left standard talking point. It's hilarious my friend. Just don't tell me 911 is an inside job and we'll get along just fine.
[and by the way, I have yet to meet an Australian who won't say that Howard is a puppet of Bush!]
Nice victimology there. You can pretend your country didn't elect- and re-elect a conservative, but it did, so your leader has something the people want, and that isn't a Bush puppet string. Get out a little more, or give up the victim whining, or both. I heard from a lot of Aussies who changed their tune after the Bali bombing...what happened to you ? Oh nevermind.
Yes, the left wing "ism" from you is startling. I frankly don't quite understand someone whose "philosophy" is all about others hiding the truth from them, or the opposition that is winning ( Howard - along with the majority of Aussie votes), is a puppet of "someone else named Bush"...
People are adults and made their own decision, and your government has the ability and power to decide like Spain did for instance- whenever it wants along with the people.
So far you're outnumbered is about all I can realistically tell you. I think you should be a man about it, and accept it.
Have a good one, and I hope you don't burn up into lib cinder ashes within ten years " as Al Gore has puppeteered you into believing". haha
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Jack Bauer Says:July 18, 2006 - 05:54
sport we should be grateful for the little wanker (fine old English word)! All he does every so often is post on busters reminding us that the Australian conservative Prime Minister (called a liberal in the true sense before leftoid hijacked the word) won again in 2004. Clearly most Aussies are not as dumb as him -- or as useless as Harry Kewell. VIVA the CIA -- if only because they put 100 bullets into Che Guevera.
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Pompiero Says:July 18, 2006 - 06:06
I thought the conservatives hijacked that word? Back in the 1988 election?
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Jack Bauer Says:July 18, 2006 - 06:12
Wrong. VIVA the CIA -- if only because they put 100 bullets into Che Guevera.
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Pompiero Says:July 18, 2006 - 06:25
Do any politicians call themselves liberals? I can't think of one... Republicans have made the word so repulsive by tying it to people like Dukakis, that no one on the left wants to use it.
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Jack Bauer Says:July 18, 2006 - 06:47
Sorry, but I'm bored with this topic as we've aired it many times on NB.I go back to the classical political and social definiton of "liberal" from Adam Smith and the Wealth of Nations . That is a free trade liberalism. If you know about this stuff, then no point in me going any further.If you don't, again I ain't the guy who wants to argue with you over it. VIVA the CIA -- if only because they put 100 bullets into Che Guevera.
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kathleenirish Says:July 18, 2006 - 00:15
Go get a cup of tea or something, you need to relax, you wack-job!
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JAB Says:July 18, 2006 - 00:23
Kath, let's play nice. He may just be having an off day, as we all have once in a while.
Too Bad Ignorance isn't painful, to the ignorant!
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kathleenirish Says:July 18, 2006 - 00:45
Hi, JAB, you are obviously a gentleman. I am neither gentle or a man, but I thought I WAS being nice, considering how I'd really like to respond!
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JAB Says:July 18, 2006 - 00:54
LOL, and ME too (being nice that is) Kathleen ;-) however, we must attempt to talk to others on here as though we are face-to-face. Not saying you would not do that but others would. Thanks for the laugh, it is a good ending to a rough day!
Too Bad Ignorance isn't painful, to the ignorant!
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kathleenirish Says:July 18, 2006 - 01:16
I like being able to say things I never get the chance to in real life. I mean, GOD! I work in human services and go to a liberal college. In MASSACHUSETTS! I am not up for being a wounded animal in the pirahna tank, you know what I mean?
I used to be a liberal, but then I experienced their hypocrisy first hand. I might have been a liberal, but I was a Catholic one. No good. Can't make the team with that strike.
Oh, and then there was that traitor fraud Billy Clinton's 1992 campaign. Not going back again.

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kathleenirish Says:July 18, 2006 - 00:39
my note about the cuppa was addressed to the Down Under Dude who is in a serious need of some chilling out. Perhaps we can deprogram him, purge him, of the MSM crappola his mind is controlled by. The MSM is even worse in some countries, like Britain, but I don't know about Australia.
I do smell the scent of elitism off him....a shower and a cuppa will do nicely.
My impression of Australia is that it is like a British California.
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Unsane Says:July 18, 2006 - 03:52
My impression of Australia is that it is like a British California. kathleen - Don't let rhayes scare you. Australia is hardly like that (though I would make an argument for New Zealand, they tend towards socialism much more heavily). The impressions I got on the ground there is that of a conservative nation that likes the idea of unfettered commerce and trade.
Much of Australia's television viewing, from my observations in three cities there and talking with Aussies here and Down Under is that they rely heavily on SkyNews, which is essentially the exact same thing as Fox, as both are owned by Rupert Murdoch's NewsCorp. I have only taken a gander at some of the newspapers so I really can't speak about them too much, but as far as broadcast journalism goes, they probably get a more balanced view of things than we get on average here in the United States.
One thing that concerns me about Australia, and the rest of the world, is that American publications such as Newsweak and others have international editions read widely by English speaking audiences. The U.S. MSM unfortunately has a reach far beyond our borders and one only knows what that does for foreign views of the United States.
"The vice of capitalism is that there is an unequal share of the blessings; the virtue of socialism is that there is an equal share of the misery." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
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Unsane Says:July 17, 2006 - 23:04
I turn it on and seem them have the same whine as other faux conservatives that are afraid of the truth or only want us to see what large corporations and the major oil companies want us to see. Put away the Midnight Oil CDs and read this. This is getting tiring. I need to put this in a Word document for later...
Why do you have this fear of corporate entities that are extremely democratic and as fragile as mayflies, but are oh so willing to turn over everything and anything to the State?
It's really quite simple. Corporations exist because people WANT to buy the products they produce. If there was no market for them, they would quite quickly go away. So people vote on them daily by purchasing the products they make. Additionally, ANYONE can own shares in a corporation, thus owning a part of them, and thus having a say in how they are run.
If you hate a corporation so damn much, why not stop buying from them? Why not buy influence in them - you can by purchasing shares in one, and it is quite legal - and change them from within? (Yes, maybe not one man alone can do this, but you can band together with others to do this, correct?) Or, why not set up your very own corporation that does things the way you would like to see them get done?
Here you are screaming about how corporations are the ultimate arbiters of evil, yet corporations have a extraordinarily long way to go to match the death toll at the hands of the other entity you blindly trust and want to turn over all of your economic freedom to - government. The benevolent tyrannies of Europe have so successfully stifled incentive and capitalism in general that those countries are rotting before our eyes. The more malevolent ones spill much blood in order to accomplish their twisted ends, and for your pleas they could care less. Whereas corporations merely take money to make go away, governments take another much more precious currency - blood. And in too many cases in history, they require lots and lots of blood to be removed from the earth.
"The vice of capitalism is that there is an unequal share of the blessings; the virtue of socialism is that there is an equal share of the misery." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
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heldmyw Says:July 17, 2006 - 21:58
"See here good fellow, this preposterous Al Gore is our national embarrassmentt"
Translated by Google US>AUS:
"Rack off ya pommy whacka, this whingin' yobboh is ouah mongrel!".
With all due respect, of course.
Shop at home. Buy Australian!
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kathleenirish Says:July 18, 2006 - 02:05
Funny!!!
Steve Irwin and Yvonne Goolagong. Always loved that name. Goo-la-gong! Oh, yeah, Nicole Kidman, she's nice. Nicer since splitting from that annoyance, Tom Cruise.
Mel Columcille Gibson. I'd like to think of him as Irish, however. That's where he gets those looks from. right? :^>.
I don't know anything else that is interesting out of Australia...not rhayes' redundant liberal propanda, that's for sure.
That's MY bias coming through!

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MightyMouth Says:July 17, 2006 - 21:52
"I have yet to meet an Australian who won't say that Howard is a puppet of Bush"
Didn't you "blokes" elect him? If so, stop bitchin.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
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John in CA Says:July 17, 2006 - 22:01
The Aussies elected Howard, then reelected him. Even after his puppet master GWB roped him into the coalition to fight in Iraq. Of course, the media, leading up to the election had Howard in trouble. Which naturally means he won comfortably.
So, rhayes, the libbie American-Aussie, must be like those Upper West Side libbies. They are so insulated they only socialize with people of their mindset. That's the only explanation for rhayes not knowing anyone who supports Howard. Poor rhayes.
Give a Democrat Party free America a chance!
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rhayes Says:July 17, 2006 - 22:15
"The idea of Howard as Bush's puppet is already pretty much part of the Australian political wisdom"
Mungo McCallum
"Moderat ion is the key to and long and healthy life!" anonymous moderate centenarian born during the Teddy Roosevelt ( the great national park conservative )administration
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Unsane Says:July 17, 2006 - 22:44
rhayes - Perhaps you can explain some things to me here. I am admittedly confused.
If John Howard is Bush's puppet, can you tell me why he was voted into office in March 1996?
Can you tell me why, if Aussies are troubled by Howard being "Bush's puppet", Mark Latham got his ass handed to him in Aussie polls in 2004, even though he blasted Howard as Bush's "arse licker"?
And why is John Howard's greatest political threat coming from Peter Costello and not Kim Beazley?
I don't know much about Aussie politics admittedly but perhaps you can help me out here.
"The vice of capitalism is that there is an unequal share of the blessings; the virtue of socialism is that there is an equal share of the misery." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
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MikeB Says:July 17, 2006 - 22:36
"In the summertime, when the weather's fine, you got women, you got women on your mind"
Mungo Jerry
So what?
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
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John in CA Says:July 17, 2006 - 22:28
rhayes claims: "The idea of Howard as Bush's puppet is already pretty much part of the Australian political wisdom"
So the Aussies reelected him anyway. What's that say about the citizens of Oz? Or maybe it doesn't say anything at all about them, but speaks volumes about you and the company you keep.
Give a Democrat Party free America a chance!
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rhayes Says:July 17, 2006 - 22:35

"Many of those expressing disdain for Howard's mission drew strength from a perception of Bush, his host, as a dead man walking, foundering in the opinion polls, his party facing rejection in November's midterm elections.
Comparisons were drawn with Richard Nixon and Jimmy Carter, after their approval ratings also dropped into the low 30s."
Frank Devine, The Australian.
and we elected Bush too and look how great America is doing! tdf
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Timothy H Says:July 17, 2006 - 22:47
Yeah, No Terror attacks on homeland soil since 9/11. An economy that has clearly worked its way out of the Clinton Recession. Saddam is no longer in power. The Taliban is no longer in power. Libya has extended its arms in friendship. The unemployment rate is low. The market has rebounded from 9/11. And we still pay less than half of what Europe does for gas. A border bill is in the works. And the DNC is so pissed at all the good news that it is trying to run against Bush in the '06 elections. Sounds pretty good to me under the circumstances.
-The quickest way to shut one's mind is to open one's mouth in anger-
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John in CA Says:July 17, 2006 - 22:43
Is this a quote from a newpaper column? It makes no sense. Is there some context to this column? What is the columnists political leanings?
Give a Democrat Party free America a chance!
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Unsane Says:July 17, 2006 - 22:43
rhayes - Perhaps you can explain some things to me here. I am admittedly confused.
If John Howard is Bush's puppet, can you tell me why he was voted into office in March 1996?
Can you tell me why, if Aussies are troubled by Howard being "Bush's puppet", Mark Latham got his ass handed to him in Aussie polls in 2004, even though he blasted Howard as Bush's "arse licker"?
And why is John Howard's greatest political threat coming from Peter Costello and not Kim Beazley?
I don't know much about Aussie politics admittedly but perhaps you can help me out here.
"The vice of capitalism is that there is an unequal share of the blessings; the virtue of socialism is that there is an equal share of the misery." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
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SportPolitics Says:July 18, 2006 - 02:15
Unsane you just wiped the floor with rhayes.
It is so amazing to me when these "tinfoil stamped" lefties come in here, and I find out the conservative regulars know more than the lefty whiner, and hand them their walking papers with facts.
He has disappeared on your post. It would really be nice if the tinfoil lefties had the decency to repost a cowering "I surrender", as it so often is left undone by them.
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MightyMouth Says:July 17, 2006 - 22:17
I guess we have no choice but to take your word for that. You win, you can go to bed now.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
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MightyMouth Says:July 17, 2006 - 22:05
Thanks John, you said it much more gracefully than I could have. :-)
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
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acaiguana Says:July 17, 2006 - 21:30
Most Australians I know are intelligent. So I don't believe you when you claim to be an Australian.
But, that's just me....
:-)
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rhayes Says:July 17, 2006 - 21:43
Both of my parents were Australian. I am Australian-American. My great grand parents on both sides came here in the middle of the 19th century.
The nice thing is that Australians generally care about the environment and won't let Mcds or a Walmart type operation go anywhere they want as a ugly blight to the beautiful coastal enviroment!
but thanks for the left handed compliment to my ancestry!
"Moderat ion is the key to and long and healthy life!" anonymous moderate centenarian born during the Teddy Roosevelt ( the great national park conservative )administration
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Unsane Says:July 17, 2006 - 22:48
The nice thing is that Australians generally care about the environment and won't let Mcds or a Walmart type operation go anywhere they want as a ugly blight to the beautiful coastal enviroment! This sentence says it all.
Environmentalism is not about protecting the environment. It IS ALL ABOUT socialism and the total destruction of capitalism. If it wasn't, why do you go out of the way to blast successful enterprises as Wal-Mart and McDonald's?
By the way, I don't know about Wal-Mart making appearances in Australia, but there are MickeyDs all over the place down there. I ate at one in Canberra, in fact, since I was rushing that particular day to some other destinations. So much for the socialistic, snobby vision of Australia you have. Oh, and WORSE - there are STARBUCKS COFFEES all over Australia!!! I dare say there are more of those in Sydney than in Seattle!!!
"The vice of capitalism is that there is an unequal share of the blessings; the virtue of socialism is that there is an equal share of the misery." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
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rhayes Says:July 17, 2006 - 23:03
Unsane,
Many Australian coastal communities such as Byron Bay have not allowed buildings to be built that will affect the natural aesthetic beauty of an environment. They limit the amount of floors that a building can have and they keep the beaches clean of mass suburban development.
Mcds has sprouted up like an obnoxious weed in many places of Australia. Fortunately many places do not allow them and other blights to the beauty of a community.
It's a shame that you and others indoctrinated by Fox (and it's over here spreading this american neocon propaganda to unknowing victims) have turned environmentalism into a dirty word like liberal is in half of the US. I'm sure if this ideology would have it's way, the liberal (conservative party in Oz) change it's name !
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Unsane Says:July 17, 2006 - 23:18
Mcds has sprouted up like an obnoxious weed in many places of Australia. Here is one shocking reason why they are showing up in Australia: because people want them there. People are apparently going to MickeyDs as willing and able customers and encouraging their growth. That damn freewill thing again! (Do you have the same objection to Hungry Jack's?) If you and your fellow Aussies didn't want them there...no one is sticking guns at your heads and forcing you to go!
You have FREEWILL...use it!
And by the way...so much for you being a Buchanan conservative! You were really just a closet socialist the whole time.
"The vice of capitalism is that there is an unequal share of the blessings; the virtue of socialism is that there is an equal share of the misery." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
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Blonde Says:July 17, 2006 - 23:21
Unsane,
really just a closet socialist the whole time
Was there ever any doubt?
Isn't this the same guy who told us about the four foot high ecologically sound buildings on the beach, or somesuch?
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rhayes Says:July 17, 2006 - 23:35
hmmm, closet socialist?
because I care about the environment? sad that according to the neocon double speak used by your heroes of fox, environmentalism and liberals are socialists! too funny!
and by the way, blonde, I meant to say they limit the amount of stories to 4. I'm sure you will always remember that gaffe. Do you want me to go into all the gaffes that Bush has made?
"Moderat ion is the key to and long and healthy life!" anonymous moderate centenarian born during the Teddy Roosevelt ( the great national park conservative )administration
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Jack Bauer Says:July 18, 2006 - 05:57
Bak wanka. Derk-derk-Allah. Derka drongo wombat. Derka chunda, Mohammed Jihad. Baka sherpa-sherpa. Abaka-la. Zidane-zidane. VIVA the CIA -- if only because they put 100 bullets into Che Guevera.
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NL207 Says:July 18, 2006 - 00:38
You may care about the environment, but its clear you know nothing about environmental science, such as it is. But, as with all liberal mentalities, it is the intentions and not the actual results that matter. Therefore, actual knowledge is not required.
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Blonde Says:July 18, 2006 - 00:46
NL,
Has something to do with intentions, expectations, outcomes, and unrealistic dreams.
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Unsane Says:July 17, 2006 - 23:52
because I care about the environment? You DON'T care about the environment. Well, at least not nearly as much as you hate capitalism. Sounds to me like the only thing you care about is how evil MickeyDs is. Am I wrong?
I love the environment. One of the most awesome things TX ever did was to require the recycling of oil. Now I have a selection of responsible things to do with my used motor oil when I do an oil change back home. I love the fact that in TX, even in the urban sprawl where I live, I can isolate myself in the middle of nowhere in about an hour's time if I work hard enough at it.
There are all kinds of little things I do to help the environment, here in Korea and back home: I don't litter, fill my gas tank at optimum times to try and discourage ozone formation close to ground level, use an electric lawn mower (tap the resources of the South Texas Nuclear Project!) instead of a gas-powered one, and utilizing my recycle bin.
You have not discussed anything you have done about the environment. What you seem to think works in promoting the environment are the following: attacking capitalism, corporations, Fox News, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, the intelligence of many an NB poster to include myself, and of course, the President of the United States. You have even ascribed to him the mysterious power of political kingmaker in Australian politics, even though when Howard was first elected in March 1996, Bush was a mere governor of TX.
So forgive me if I have a very hard time believing your cries about how much you love the environment. You don't love the environment as much as you hate capitalism, profit, money, and certain political persuasions.
"The vice of capitalism is that there is an unequal share of the blessings; the virtue of socialism is that there is an equal share of the misery." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
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Blonde Says:July 17, 2006 - 23:45
rhayes,
Caring about the environment, and buying the Al Gore's view of the world are two entirely different things.
I think you'll find if you're able to discriminate between the two, that most conservatives DO care about the environment. I know I do....I live very close to the other great coral reef in the world, and I care about it very much.
However, you do yourself a disservice to continue to malign Fox News, particularly as "our Heros"....I'm not sure how you reached that degree of equivalency in your mind.






rhayes Says:July 17, 2006 - 23:52
However, you do yourself a disservice to continue to malign Fox News, particularly as "our Heros"....I'm not sure how you reached that degree of equivalency in your mind
hmmm, you don't think Oreilly is a hero and anne coulter is a heroine to you blokes?? Seems like you love giving quotes to the antithesis of of politeness! But its ok to be rude if you're a neocon!
yet she appears to be on fox as much as you guy obsess about Gore! tdf
"Moderat ion is the key to and long and healthy life!" anonymous moderate centenarian born during the Teddy Roosevelt ( the great national park conservative )administration
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Unsane Says:July 18, 2006 - 00:06
O'Reilly is a populist, NOT a conservative. And yes, and author would want to make the rounds on TV after his or her book is published. I don't fault Ann Coulter for that. So what?
But its ok to be rude if you're a neocon! Ummmm...how are any of us being rude? Admittedly, driving wrecking balls through Fantasy Land can be rude to some but to others it is very liberating. Do you even know what a "neocon" is, or do you just like to throw it around because it makes you sound more sophisticated?
yet she appears to be on fox as much as you guy obsess about Gore! We wouldn't care about Gore if he wasn't being fawned over and gushed about by an even more obssessive MSM, now, would we?
"The vice of capitalism is that there is an unequal share of the blessings; the virtue of socialism is that there is an equal share of the misery." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
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Timothy H Says:July 18, 2006 - 00:04
Coulter appears everywhere. Like every other pundit, she goes all over, promoting her books, and generally tryingto get her voice across. The thing that kills me, is that she is no more derogetory than the leftists that regularly appear everywhere. But you only here the leftists complain when someone like Ann comes around and serves some of the dirt back at the libs. Listen to Al Franken. Listen to libs on any opinion show. Constant insults at hurled at the president, at consevatives, and at anyone who has the gaul to disagree with the modern socialist..... oops, I mean liberal movement. Hipocracy reigns supreme.
-The quickest way to shut one's mind is to open one's mouth in anger-
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Blonde Says:July 18, 2006 - 00:15
TimothyH,
Well, at least Anne makes sense. Plus, she doesn't put up with any condescending stupidity from any of her detractors. (Like the so-called "widows" remark....Anne got that one exactly right)
Personally, I think she dresses well. So, to my way of thinking, she's the only well dressed, well-spoken, blonde on television (oops...sorry Laura Ingraham).
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Timothy H Says:July 18, 2006 - 00:25
Honestly, I haven't read or heard enough of Coulter to make a decision on her, but what I have heard, I agree with, at least on principle. But I don't know if I agree with the "Hey, libs are this asinine, so we need someone to fight back, give em a little of their own medicine." I don't know that lowering ourselves from what was once a moral highroad is the way to show everyone that conservatives are a better choice. To be honest, it really reminds me more of schoolyard children throwing mudpies at each other. they both end up dirty, and when they're finished, you can't recognize which one is which.
That being said, I do think that, from ewhat I have heard and read, she is very intelligent, and has solid ideas from which she launches her satire. She is funny, no doubt. But in the end, does she leave us looking like them?
BTW, Blonde, good to hear from you tonight, my friend.
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Blonde Says:July 18, 2006 - 00:31
Timothy H,
You may have a point there...about rolling around in the mud. However, I just love it that Anne never lets the left wing media talking heads get away with their usual sling & fling journalism. They don't like it when their own tactics are used against them.
Anne's pretty cool...
Having said that, I wish Laura Ingraham would get her own show. I'd make a point of it to be home to watch that one.
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Timothy H Says:July 18, 2006 - 00:36
I think the true crime is that from what I have seen of her, anne may be one of the brightest of the conservative pundits around. It is sad that she conducts herself in such a way that she is so easily dismissed and disregarded. She has some truly good points to make. I think that is the real folly. Her message is lost on some who might actually listen if the words weren't so caustic.
-The quickest way to shut one's mind is to open one's mouth in anger-
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Blonde Says:July 18, 2006 - 00:01
rhayes,
Have I ever once quoted, or referenced, either BOR or Ann Coulter? No.
I'm trying to dissuade you from making these blanket type statements. What you'll find here is that we (as a group) derive our views from a vast and varied experiences / reference points.
You might think that because we're conservatives, we're "anti-environment" (and to view our comments on the Al Gore threads, if you were an alien from outer space, I'd understand that POV). Point on the needle is that we detest being told what to think by some has-been washed up politician whose only claim to fame is being (a) inventor of the internet (b) roommate of actor Tommy Lee Jones or (c) Steven Segall wanna be.
If you'd ask one of the other "neo-con" posters here...say Roger the Shrubber...I'd bet you he's a conservationist....he's a sportsman. Or how about Bass'n'dude...same, same. Or any of the others here who enjoy the outdoor life.
Just because we don't buy our "environmentalism" from Al Gore doesn't mean anything...it just means we think Al's an idiot.
Does this clear things up for you a bit?
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JAB Says:July 17, 2006 - 23:43
Na, just Clinton's gaffes, I'm sure they are better and more entertaining! No sides here, right?!
Too Bad Ignorance isn't painful, to the ignorant!
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Unsane Says:July 17, 2006 - 23:14
The Liberal Party of Australia can name itself whatever it wants. And I am not the one blasting corporations or other capitalist institutions, YOU are.
It's a shame that you and others indoctrinated by Fox (and it's over here spreading this american neocon propaganda to unknowing victims) have turned environmentalism into a dirty word like liberal is in half of the US. (Pauses to shake my head) Can you be more insulting to my intelligence? Where I am at, I have 1) no access and 2) absolutely no time to watch Fox, yet you blithely assume I'm indoctrinated. On the other side of the coin, can I blithely assume that you have been indoctrinated by Al Gore aod others of his ilk to hate the private sector and turn over all trust, money and eventually freedom, both economic and political, to the State?
I am not indoctrinated by anything as much as I am helplessly addicted to critical thinking. If global warming and environmental threats are real, then why did you attack two successful corporations in the post I responded to? Why did you take another swipe at MickeyDs if you are 100% about the environment? Why does the Kyoto Protocol exempt major polluters like China, India and Mexico and does nothing to curb tropical deforestation? Does the pollution from those three countries enter a wormhole and emerge on Venus?
Such simple questions I have!
Oh...the MickeyDs in Canberra was great. Didn't swing by the McCafes they have in Sydney and Melbourne, though now that you so viciously attack them, I'll have to visit them on my return visit to Australia.
"The vice of capitalism is that there is an unequal share of the blessings; the virtue of socialism is that there is an equal share of the misery." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
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rhayes Says:July 17, 2006 - 23:30
"Oh...the MickeyDs in Canberra was great. Didn't swing by the McCafes they have in Sydney and Melbourne, though now that you so viciously attack them, I'll have to visit them on my return visit to Australia."
I admit that the government in Australia is as corrupt as American, although they have to cater to "environmentalists" since the majority of this country does care about it even though they have allowed Mcds to use up valuable rainforests near Cairnes to produce meat for their happy meals in Canberra.
Canberra, the capital, full of corrupt politicians like in DC happens to be the only place besides Nimbin, NSW, where Cannabis is legal. Is that so their children won't get in trouble when caught passing the joint??
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Unsane Says:July 17, 2006 - 23:40
Once again, MickeyD's MickeyD's, MickeyD's. Hey rhayes: no one is forcing you to eat at one. Besides, I'd worry less about the cattle stations that may be taking down rain forests around Cairns and more about the cyclones (which have been occurring for millions of years before the first Hyper Evil Big Oil Coroporation was even dreamt of) like that massive one that leveled it and banana plantations all over Queensland in March.
Say! Care you vent your spleen over those evil banana plantation owners who DARE to grow crops in what surely was a tropical rain forest? Or will you only attack them if it is found they sell their products to the Evil MickeyDs?
And I have yet to hear what your take is on other fast food places like Hungry Jack's and other evil corporations like Starbucks.
"The vice of capitalism is that there is an unequal share of the blessings; the virtue of socialism is that there is an equal share of the misery." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
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acaiguana Says:July 17, 2006 - 21:46
Don't believe that I'm having any discussion with you either.
That would be a mistake.
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rhayes Says:July 17, 2006 - 21:57
Did I say that I wanted to discuss anything with you or the typical rude "conservative" that habitates this site?
That sounds typical for the impolite folks than live on this site. Make a derogatory comment and then not expect a reply.
It's nice to see polite conservatives(liberal party here) instead of what the new American conservative party has become (neoconservatives)... I guess that's what you expect when their models or paradigms for behavior are Hannity, coulter and Oreilly! What a joke and embarassment to American conservatives that are attacked because of these vitriolic jokesters who are afraid of Gore or Brokaw warning us about taking care of the environment on this fragile earth!
"Moderat ion is the key to and long and healthy life!" anonymous moderate centenarian born during the Teddy Roosevelt ( the great national park conservative )administration
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Jack Bauer Says:July 18, 2006 - 06:00
Let's get one thing straight, actor. I don't trust you. If you betray us, I'll rip your fu++ing balls off and stuff them up you’re a++ so that the next time you s++t, you'll s++t all over your b+lls, got it? Bak wanka. Derk-derk-Allah. Derka drongo wombat. Derka chunda, Mohammed Jihad. Baka sherpa-sherpa. Abaka-la. Zidane-zidane. VIVA the CIA -- if only because they put 100 bullets into Che Guevera.
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Blonde Says:July 17, 2006 - 23:03
rhayes,
Ouch. Ouch.
Go for Gore and Brokaw if you must. It's folly, but have yourself a good old time over it.
BTW, it's rude to throw out blanket statements about "paradigms of behaviour". Look in the mirror, guy.
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rhayes Says:July 17, 2006 - 23:21
You all need to look in the mirror and ask are you happy with Bush's record on the environment??
As far as behaviour you only have to see your behavior on this site and then to watch Fox news to see it again! I guess Rush was the first to be proud of bad behavior and now according to this site, it is your version of "cool" as long as they make fun of "liberals".
this site is hilarious
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Jack Bauer Says:July 18, 2006 - 06:02
The time has come for us to start using our acting talents in a different way. We can use our powers to change the world. We will persuade everyone to drive hybrid cars and stop smoking. If we focus our acting on global politics we can change everything and stuff. Bak wanka. Derk-derk-Allah. Derka drongo wombat. Derka chunda, Mohammed Jihad. Baka sherpa-sherpa. Abaka-la. Zidane-zidane. VIVA the CIA -- if only because they put 100 bullets into Che Guevera.
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JAB Says:July 17, 2006 - 23:35
"this site is hilarious" ...and you must be one of those callers that always threaten to "Never listen again" about the commentators statements on AM radio, because your still here!
LOL, you guy's are hilarious, I find what you do for entertainment is amusing!
Too Bad Ignorance isn't painful, to the ignorant!
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danbo Says:July 18, 2006 - 05:50
you must be one of those callers that always threaten to "Never listen again"
We can hope.
"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods." Albert Einstein
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rhayes Says:July 17, 2006 - 23:41
this site is hilarious" ...and you must be one of those callers that always threaten to "Never listen again" about the commentators statements on AM radio, because your still here!
I read this site because unlike many neo conservatives who only want to listen to news that the powers that be want us to hear, I am open minded (does that mean I'm liberal) I like to hear both sides and especially independent sources that won't be corrupted by large amounts of money.
"Moderat ion is the key to and long and healthy life!" anonymous moderate centenarian born during the Teddy Roosevelt ( the great national park conservative )administration
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Timothy H Says:July 18, 2006 - 00:10
I love hearing you libs talk about open mindedness, all the while spouting liberal talking point without a shredd of independant thought involved. Come on. How about a little intellectual honesty. You haven't posted a single idea here that isn't a regurgitation of the same thing liberals have been posting here since the inception of this site.
I'm not one to ask someone to leave, it's not my way. But can we get past petty bit throwing and into some actual intellectual debate? Or am I asking for too much?
-The quickest way to shut one's mind is to open one's mouth in anger-
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rhayes Says:July 18, 2006 - 01:24
I love hearing you libs talk about open mindedness, all the while spouting liberal talking point without a shredd of independant thought involved.
I came to these conclusion just as probably over half of America has sans Faux News and the large news stations run by large corporations that dare not question Bush for fear of being banned from the white house press corp like they are on this site. Reporters now appear to be at more risk from consequences from this administration and other rich power hungry people since the days of McCarthy.
Meanwhile we have constant ranting about liberal bias so some folks can't think for themselves and regurgitate faux points without ever thinking independently or with an open mind. This site doesn't even like conservatives that express themselves differently than the administration wants them to think.
Come on. How about a little intellectual honesty. You haven't posted a single idea here that isn't a regurgitation of the same thing liberals have been posting here since the inception of this site.
Come on, Mate ! Think for yourself and don't say what every other neocon including Rush has said before this site was ever even concieved!
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Timothy H Says:July 18, 2006 - 01:45
First, You haven't seen fit to cite one example of mainstream media conservative bias. I have been chasing you around all night trying to give you a voice that you claim is being silenced, and you have done nothing but avoid the issue, prefering to spout broad nonspecifics that mean nothing and pure rubbish. Tell me, if there is so much fear of being booted from the WHPC, explain Helen Thomas to me.
Fox News runs global warming BS specials that are meant to make nonthinking liberals feel all warm and fuzzy, like they connected with the President that wasn't.
Come on, Mate ! Think for yourself and don't say what every other neocon including Rush has said before this site was ever even concieved!
Try actually reading my posts, as I have condemned the behavior of Anne Coulter, Called for Bush to act like a conservative and actually try conserving money, argued against the tax and spend drug war and the Kennedy/Bush collaberation of No Child Left Behind. I, unlike you, look at the issue, not the talking points, in order to make up my mind.
The fact still remains that even when offered the forum, you have said nothing of value here, and have provided no citation of ACTUAL mainstream conservative bias. You equate Anne Coulter to Dan Rather. That's your Argument? That, even though Dan the Man tried to sabotage Bush's career with forged documents, Anne, and admitted pundit who has never claimed to be balanced, is your rebuttal? Rush Limbaugh is your heavy artillary? Neither is a journalist. How do they become mainstream conservative bias in the media? Well, first they would have to claim that they were balanced, like Dan and Tom and Katie and etc,etc,etc.....
If your looking for a story of how the media plays a part in the political spectrum, try this.....For years people believed that Walter Cronkite and his bretheren were calling it down the middle, and the dems held Congress for decades. Now everyone knows he wasn't, and that the mainstream still isn't, and the Republicans have a fighting chance, and have held Congress for over a decade. What does that tell you?
I am still waiting for an actual account of conservative media bias in the mainstream. I am willing to debate you on this respectfully. But I am growing less and less confident that you are actually here to debate and more and more sure that you are only here to disrupt.
-The quickest way to shut one's mind is to open one's mouth in anger-
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SportPolitics Says:July 18, 2006 - 02:01
Tim, looks like you'll be waiting forever.
Timothy to rhayes [...you a voice that you claim is being silenced, and you have done nothing but avoid the issue, prefering to spout broad nonspecifics that mean nothing and pure rubbish.]
Yes, that's the usual game, around those liberal fibs. Maybe it's self censorship- and quite unfair- since no answer on conserv. media bias is "available" to rhayes. LOL - you meanie Tim...
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Timothy H Says:July 18, 2006 - 02:16
I know, Sport....these libs scurry from the truth like vampires from the sun, fearing their argument will turn to dust. Shining the light of truth on him could be viewed as mean in those circumstances, I guess. Disappointing, though. I would much prefered to have actually beaten him in the debate than to have him run away from it. Oh well.
Some days it's just not worth chewing out of the restraints.
I find one thing funny, though. You can always tell the ones that don't actually read anything on the site. They always assume that we agree on everything. Like we all march to the cliff together, like lemmings. I'm not even a republican, and I think it screwed him up a little. I may be conservative, but I am conservative in a traditionalist libertarian sense. I disagree often with people on this site from all spectrums, but only a rank and file talking points liberal would possess the ability to ignore the liberal media bias that exists.
BTW, Sport, Glad to see you kicking around, my friend.
-The quickest way to shut one's mind is to open one's mouth in anger-
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SportPolitics Says:July 18, 2006 - 02:37
[Sport....these libs scurry from the truth like vampires from the sun, fearing their argument will turn to dust.]
With enough increase in neocon pollution blocking the sun they can actually have a life some day. lol
[I would much prefered to have actually beaten him in the debate than to have him run away from it. ]
Seems to me you did(RL&AC not journalists- no claim of unbiased-etc.), and he slinked.
I do wonder if they are giggling or scowling when they skulk back into their darkened crypt.This one seems like a scowler. ML seemed more the giggler.
Many here get to the point a lot faster than I do most times. Good to see you take care of a few Tim, as usual.
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Timothy H Says:July 18, 2006 - 02:46
Thanks for the kind words, Sport...
Glad to oblige, my friend ;-)
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SportPolitics Says:July 18, 2006 - 01:41
Uhh, rhayes so you sound like Moulitsas or Alex Jones. Maybe Al Frankin.
So, like you want to be not what you say others shouldn't be ?
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rhayes Says:July 18, 2006 - 01:24
I love hearing you libs talk about open mindedness, all the while spouting liberal talking point without a shredd of independant thought involved.
I came to these conclusion just as probably over half of America has sans Faux News and the large news stations run by large corporations that dare not question Bush for fear of being banned from the white house press corp like they are on this site. Reporters now appear to be at more risk from consequences from this administration and other rich power hungry people since the days of McCarthy.
Meanwhile we have constant ranting about liberal bias so some folks can't think for themselves and regurgitate faux points without ever thinking independently or with an open mind. This site doesn't even like conservatives that express themselves differently than the administration wants them to think.
Come on. How about a little intellectual honesty. You haven't posted a single idea here that isn't a regurgitation of the same thing liberals have been posting here since the inception of this site.
Come on, Mate ! Think for yourself and don't say what every other neocon including Rush has said before this site was ever even concieved!
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rhayes Says:July 18, 2006 - 01:24
I love hearing you libs talk about open mindedness, all the while spouting liberal talking point without a shredd of independant thought involved.
I came to these conclusion just as probably over half of America has sans Faux News and the large news stations run by large corporations that dare not question Bush for fear of being banned from the white house press corp like they are on this site. Reporters now appear to be at more risk from consequences from this administration and other rich power hungry people since the days of McCarthy.
Meanwhile we have constant ranting about liberal bias so some folks can't think for themselves and regurgitate faux points without ever thinking independently or with an open mind. This site doesn't even like conservatives that express themselves differently than the administration wants them to think.
Come on. How about a little intellectual honesty. You haven't posted a single idea here that isn't a regurgitation of the same thing liberals have been posting here since the inception of this site.
Come on, Mate ! Think for yourself and don't say what every other neocon including Rush has said before this site was ever even concieved!
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Unsane Says:July 18, 2006 - 00:00
read this site because unlike many neo conservatives who only want to listen to news that the powers that be want us to hear, I am open minded Do yourself a favor. Instead of claiming to be "open minded", just BE open minded and stay silent. The ones who constantly espouse that they are open minded, in my experience, are far and away the most closed-minded people I have met.
I like to hear both sides and especially independent sources that won't be corrupted by large amounts of money. There you go again! (Hat tip to Reagan!) You can't post a single time without decrying the alleged evils of "large amounts of money" or "large corporations".
Just do yourself a favor and admit that you are a Socialist who is infinitely more obsessed about how much money other people and Hyper Evil Big Corporations are making than you are about caring for the environment.
"The vice of capitalism is that there is an unequal share of the blessings; the virtue of socialism is that there is an equal share of the misery." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
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Blonde Says:July 17, 2006 - 23:39
Oh JAB,
Dream on...that they'll "never listen again", nor ever come back.
Having said that...MassLib and others have been conspicuously absent. Maybe I ought to retract that thought before it bites me in the ankle.
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JAB Says:July 17, 2006 - 23:55
Blonde, I do believe ML has had his 15 minutes of fame, I could be wrong but I think he crossed the line too many times in a row.
Matthew and others here run a tight ship, too many displays of being immature with your postings that take away from their hard work or distract the thread may lead to a cordial "your invited to leave" response to your next logon.
Can't say as I blame them, I know what it takes to create and maintain a Web Site, it's not easy nor fun. Good for them for not putting up with the BS that is posted here on a regular basis (from some uncaring or unknowing individuals)!
Tough love is the answer more times than not - IMHO!
Too Bad Ignorance isn't painful, to the ignorant!
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rhayes Says:July 18, 2006 - 00:36
Matthew and others here run a tight ship, too many displays of being immature with your postings that take away from their hard work or distract the thread may lead to a cordial "your invited to leave" response to your next logon
so that is why you don't see any liberals on here anymore. If they get down to the level of some "conservatives" (what they like to think of themselves as), they will be banned. You talked about immaturity and rudeness and asked who they were. I could give their names but what good would that do. They can be ruder than anne coulter and still be allowed to post here.
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JAB Says:July 18, 2006 - 00:48
Ray, I guess your reading comprehention skills are lacking just a bit. I asked nothing in regard to a question, I merely made a statement based on prior observations of past postings.
If you think I am wrong, OK, prove me wrong. Do not change the issues and divert the subject from it's origin and expect others to follow along.
Too Bad Ignorance isn't painful, to the ignorant!
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Blonde Says:July 18, 2006 - 00:42
rhayes,
If they got banned (notice I say IF...haven't checked it out yet) it was for something so rude as name calling, death wishes, etc. Not for contrarian POV's. Rude doesn't count, yet...although that might not be a bad thing.
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rhayes Says:July 18, 2006 - 01:09
If they got banned (notice I say IF...haven't checked it out yet) it was for something so rude as name calling, death wishes, etc. Not for contrarian POV's. Rude doesn't count, yet...although that might not be a bad thing.
there has been plenty of name calling without consequences for folks that are with the status quo of this site, but I admit that a few of the more rude folks arent participating today. You only resort to making fun of their reading comprehension.
I guess its only "cool" for Anne Coulter to make death wishes but you don't criticize her media bias. For over a decade it appeared that Rush was the only hot air bias on the radio.
There has been constant media bias. Gore was continually challenged by the media in comparison to it never really challenging Bush. I know this will open up a can of worms on this "conservative" biased site.
"Moderat ion is the key to and long and healthy life!" anonymous moderate centenarian born during the Teddy Roosevelt ( the great national park conservative )administration
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SportPolitics Says:July 18, 2006 - 01:48
Oh come on rhayes stop being so infantile and playing dumb
rhayes[there has been plenty of name calling without consequences for folks that are with the status quo of this site..]
That's quite a bit different from a total blowout meltdown with unhinged cussing. It seems to me reason is the key. Common sense. A sure footed assessment.
If ML did "blow a gasket" and "lose it", that's quite a bit different from President Bush saying " Syria should make Hezzbollah cut the _ _ _ _ ."
Obviously, the standard is reasonable, and if MassLiberal unhinged, I'm sorry for it, and will miss his twisted gyrations and the laugh I get from them, but that's the way the libbie crumbles.
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JAB Says:July 18, 2006 - 01:22
Ray, you really don't have this "Blog thing" down do you?
Blonde did not make the statement that garnered this response; "You only resort to making fun of their reading comprehension" .
I did and for good reason, you just RECONFIRMED it in writing. Come on, let's try again to have a cognet conversation, without all the name calling or any belittling, I am all ears!
Too Bad Ignorance isn't painful, to the ignorant!
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Timothy H Says:July 18, 2006 - 01:20
Please, give us details. How was gore challenged? How has the media, even Fox News, not spoonfed us everything Gore wants them to about global warming? And how has Bush not been Challenged.
And I do believe that Anne Coulter is a pundit, not a journalist. Do you equate the two? Coulter is not only biased, but admits and is proud of her bias. She does not try to hide it under the guise of journalism or reporting, but tells you from the start that she is a conservative with no intrest in offering both sides.
Dan Rather tried to pass forged documents as the truth in order to hurt the Bush Reelection campaign. But Bush is not challenged. The mainstream media downright lies in order to derail his policy and the election/reelection of conservatives.
The mainstream media feels that those who leak classified information to the press should be protected from prosecution in order to monitor gov't, but those who "leak" the name of a already compromised CIA agent who 's CIA involvement got her husband assigned to a job that he was not qualified for should be drug into court and punished.
How about some specifics, to back your claims and let your voice be heard?
-The quickest way to shut one's mind is to open one's mouth in anger-


Blonde Says:July 18, 2006 - 01:16
rhayes,
Please, point out EXACTLY where (I) You only resort to making fun of their reading comprehension.
You are becoming tiresome beyond belief. Why should I question your reading skills, when you do such a fine job of it yourself?

Blonde Says:July 18, 2006 - 00:07
JAB,
I think you may be right....whew! No more of that silly MA whining.
I know about that tough love thing...have to practice it every day with all of the whiny 20 somethings at work!
Kitty's gotta go to Orlando this week!
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rhayes Says:July 17, 2006 - 23:44
Having said that...MassLib and others have been conspicuously absent. Maybe I ought to retract that thought before it bites me in the ankle.
Maybe they are absent because it appears that anyone that lets their behavior get down to the anne coulter level without cutting down liberals, they get banned.
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